Tove Jansson's criticized illustrations of The Hobbit

(tovejansson.com)

43 points | by abelanger 2 days ago

5 comments

  • summa_tech 1 hour ago
    I... actually really liked these. And yes, sure, they aren't completely obedient to Tolkien's descriptions of the characters, but the atmosphere feels right.

    But then again, I grew up with the Moomins.

    • jojobas 52 minutes ago
      Moomins don't depict anything like saving the world, it's a whimsical universe dealing with whimsical non-issues.

      I can see why Tolkien lovers are upset at these even though I'm not really one of them.

      • Sharlin 47 minutes ago
        The Hobbit is also a whimsical children's book, and doesn't have anything to do with saving the world (a world that Tolkien had not developed anywhere near the state in we see in LoTR when he wrote The Hobbit almost 20 years earlier).
        • jfengel 3 minutes ago
          The world was pretty well developed, but The Hobbit isn't really set in it. The Hobbit was retconned into his broader Middle-earth as the sequel grew in the telling. He'd been re-writing the material that became The Silmarillion for decades. (And he offered it to the publisher instead of a Hobbit sequel, and they said "what else ya got?)

          This despite the fact that some names and elements were re-used. He often cycled the same names around until he found where they fit. Which also makes reading early drafts of the Hobbit fun when Thorin was named Gandalf.

        • jojobas 29 minutes ago
          It was a children's book and probably isn't anymore.
      • mijoharas 34 minutes ago
        Somewhat whimsical, yet somewhat grappling with dark undertones, possibly due to the trauma of the war.

        The moomins starts with a great flood that washes them all away to live in a new place (I think this is a parallel to the Finns moving out of Karelia after the war. I believe this was the largest migration of people that had occured at the time, and it has been described as causing generational trauma to the Finnish).

        In addition I believe MoominPappa deals with issues of depression or something?

        • jojobas 26 minutes ago
          Fantastic creatures diving to retrieve their pantry supplies or the head of a family grappling with a mild midlife crisis is not exactly on the same scale with a band of warriors reclaiming their homeland and in passing dealing with the eternal evil.
      • bbddg 5 minutes ago
        Comet in moominland is about them learning about a comet heading towards earth that they believe is going to kill them all.
  • pnathan 1 hour ago
    I'd have to see more to have a final thought.

    As presented, Gollum is badly off, I reckon - missing the books textual description. The flowers are out of line.

    The dragon scene is wonderful and captures the situation.

    The dwarves are a bit dopy looking but I think could cohere with the early introduction in the Hobbit.

    • A_D_E_P_T 1 hour ago
      > As presented, Gollum is badly off, I reckon - missing the books textual description. The flowers are out of line.

      This is addressed in the article. "Paul Gravett writes in his new book about Tove Jansson: ‘Her Gollum towered monstrously large, to the surprise of Tolkien himself, who realized that he had never clarified Gollum’s size and so amended the second edition to describe him as ‘a small, slimy creature’."

      We have Jansson to thank for the clarification, it seems!

  • NoboruWataya 1 hour ago
    These are lovely. I knew about the Moomins of course but I didn't know about the other stuff she did, some of which I really like. I wish the website had more of the illustrations but I guess there might be copyright issues.

    I'd be particularly interested in seeing more of her illustrations for Alice in Wonderland and The Hunting of the Snark (the latter is a great poem if you haven't read it: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/29888/29888-h/29888-h.htm)

  • kwertyoowiyop 2 days ago
    The dragon is just great. These are so charming.
  • hosaka 1 hour ago
    As someone who loved the Moomintroll illustrations I find this both familiar and hilarious. I suppose I might have a different opinion if I'd actually read any of Tolkien's works.

    > "She even made some of the characters especially tiny to elevate the landscapes." wish there were more examples of this in the images shown in the article.