Turkish Coffee? Since the 16th Century, It's in the Water

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23 points | by speckx 5 days ago

7 comments

  • boomskats 1 hour ago
    The second edition of Maxwell Colonna-Dashwood's Water for Coffee came out v recently, and afaik it talks about good quality natural water a lot more than the diy reconstituted/resalted ro water approach discussed in the first book. I wonder if it influenced the messaging in this article.
  • zwaps 39 minutes ago
    Monarchic customs are always a great source for optimized procedures and best practices, because in these places marginal costs don't matter, people get assigned to particular knowledge areas and the assumption is that quality does matter.
  • hsynkrkye 5 days ago
    As a Turk, I can say that the truly wonderful thing is brewing very finely ground coffee with its grounds.
    • vladgur 1 hour ago
      its also a visually very appealing thing if its done properly -- ie in a heated sand.
    • tetris11 1 hour ago
      my friend's mother would make it for us, and I would secretly top it up with water and dilute the grounds until I ate/drank them down.

      Not only did this illicit reactions of disgust, but it prevented them from doing a coffee reading of my future as my cup was always clean by the end.

      • vladgur 1 hour ago
        So had you not done the herecy of diluting the coffee grounds, you might have been foretold your future of being replaced by LLM tokens
        • tetris11 1 hour ago
          That's everybody's future, so I would have been pretty unimpressed if that's all she could come up with
  • croisillon 1 hour ago
    next time just post the prompt
    • Foskya 1 hour ago
      But.. it is not AI? What is giving you that impression?
    • NoboruWataya 1 hour ago
      To me it reads like it was written by a non-native English speaker, in a way that most AI slop doesn't. Maybe an LLM was used to translate?
      • moritzwarhier 1 hour ago
        Edit: looked into it and the first paragraph doesn't exhibit any LLM "tells" to me, so I'd rather read it in full or research about the source than judge it. Leaving the rest of my comment because it is my opinion on the argument of using LLMs to rewrite text.

        I don't know if this was done here.

        =====

        I haven't read TFA, and this explanation comes up again and again, but I'd rather read broken English (or German), than the "enhanced" version.

        Considering that LLM rewriting using non-specialized tools is more often than not far from preserving intent and meaning of any input, I'd say I think this applies even more for non-native speakers.

        You wouldn't say "maybe the author is not a physician, so they might have used an LLM to fill in the Latin terms and medication doses" or "not a scientist, used ChatGPT to do the statistics using my notebook of empirical data" either.

        Language has value and simple language or slightly wrong grammar is preferable to a verbose and glossy distortion of the input.

        Sorry if this doesn't apply, since I didn't click the link.

        And yeah I'm sure my comment is verbose and partially wrong in my English, but well.

        • NoboruWataya 38 minutes ago
          Totally agree, my point was that I didn't get the impression that the article was LLM-generated, for that reason. The commenter I was replying to seemed to think the article was obviously LLM-generated, so LLM-aided translation was one possible explanation, but I don't have any particular reason to believe that's what the author actually did.
  • esafak 2 hours ago
    One of the few benefits of monarchy is the development of haute cuisine, since the monarchs don't want to eat like the hoi polloi. This culinary tradition eventually escapes the palace and percolates through society.
  • KaifKhan 1 hour ago
    the sultan's coffee water was basically the original hardware spec, modern baristas are just running a high res update on an old ottoman algorithm that treated water as the source code. gumussuyu proves specialty coffee isnot new, just a re.run of a centuries old protocol.
  • bgnn 1 hour ago
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