13 comments

  • walrus01 36 minutes ago
    The idea that a state court in one particular state can enforce such an absurd law against a company that likely has no business operations or servers in the state is ridiculous. I don't care if you like the porn site in question or not, or condone or endorse its content. This is a slippery slope towards every regional tinpot dictator legislature attempting to censor the internet by having an entity's domain name revoked.

    .com in particular has also been well proven over the past 5 to 10 years to be vulnerable to federal court orders to seize domains at the registrar level. That's not really anything new. It's a known risk for anyone building a corporate brand/identity around a specific .com domain name. What's new is this is being done from the state court level. (Edit: To be clear, in my opinion, a US State court completely lacks jurisdiction on this matter).

    • AdieuToLogic 12 minutes ago
      > The idea that a state court in one particular state can enforce such an absurd law against a company that likely has no business operations or servers in the state is ridiculous.

      Two things of note regarding this.

      First, note the office of origin: Texas Attorney General, which is currently occupied by Ken Paxton who is running for a tightly contested seat in the US Senate.

      Second, a state court does not have jurisdiction beyond its borders for entities not operating within same.

      > .com in particular has also been well proven over the past 5 to 10 years to be vulnerable to federal court orders to seize domains at the registrar level. ... What's new is this is being done from the state court level.

      Which is why any attempt to enforce this ruling would be subject to removal to Federal court.

    • thegrim33 2 minutes ago
      So, you feel the same about stuff like the GDPR then, right?
    • bmelton 19 minutes ago
      How do you feel about GDPR?
      • walrus01 12 minutes ago
        I worry about it about as much as I worry about getting extradited to Thailand to face court for violating a law insulting the Thai king. I am unaware of even a single person of my nationality who has been extradited to Europe to face some kind of GDPR tribunal.

        If I were running a business that had any operations or clients whatsoever in Europe my opinion on this topic would be different (in terms of legal liability to the corporation, and necessity of compliance to ensure ongoing revenue from European customers, etc), but I am not.

        • bmelton 7 minutes ago
          Thanks for the answer! It wasn't a gotcha, I was genuinely just curious.
      • applfanboysbgon 11 minutes ago
        The GDPR doesn't try to remove anything from the global internet. You're free to not serve your site in the EU. Texas is free to block sites in Texas. But Texas trying to remove the ability of (for instance) Europeans to access websites is a completely different matter.
        • jasonfarnon 2 minutes ago
          "But Texas trying to remove the ability of (for instance) Europeans to access websites is a completely different matter."

          I fail to see the difference in principle from the federal government doing this for copyright violations.

        • bmelton 7 minutes ago
          > The GDPR doesn't try to remove anything from the global internet

          GDPR Article 17 expressly requires the removal of things from the global internet

          > You're free to not serve your site in the EU

          Geoblocking is functionally impossible

          • applfanboysbgon 5 minutes ago
            > GDPR Article 17 expressly requires the removal of things from the global internet

            ...as part of compliance with GDPR, if you choose to be compliant. Please name one instance of the EU suing and successfully removing an American website from the internet under this article, or any part of the GDPR? Considering we're talking about an actual case of the US seizing the domain of a European website, whataboutting a hypothetical with the GDPR which has never done the reverse despite being in force for 10 years is incredibly disingenuous.

    • jasonfarnon 19 minutes ago
      " a company that likely has no business operations or servers in the state is ridiculous"

      Of course it has business operations in TX. That is the nexus granting jurisdiction.

      • AdieuToLogic 6 minutes ago
        > Of course it has business operations in TX.

        It does not, as explicitly stated in the court's decision found here[0].

        https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/ima...

      • walrus01 18 minutes ago
        It is known to have servers, offices, employees, bank accounts, business licenses in texas?
        • monksy 13 minutes ago
          Motherless.xxx's tracepath is: https://ipinfo.io/185.107.81.233

          Hosting out of the netherlands. Kick their owners are globally headquarted in Australia, their US operations are out of SFO, CA.

        • jasonfarnon 4 minutes ago
          Why do you think that is necessary for jurisdiction? It's doing business with TX customers every time it serves an ad to someone there. The law governing sufficient contacts for internet companies has been pretty well established since the 2000s.
          • walrus01 1 minute ago
            > It's doing business with TX customers every time it serves an ad to someone there

            By this same logic if my web server physically located in Canada, the USA or Iceland serves LGBTQ content to people in Uganda I should be held liable or dragged into a Ugandan court under some of Uganda's anti-LGBTQ laws?

            https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=uganda+an...

  • monksy 26 minutes ago
    This kills their operations in other states that do not have this.

    Not sure how this does not violate interstate commerce.

    Contact your congress criter: https://www.congress.gov/

    BTW: Kick - Melborne, AU. US Operations: SanFran CA. Registar: Verisign - Reston, VA.

  • wolpoli 23 minutes ago
    Honest question: what is the ultimate end game if at some point a court in another country orders a domain be reinstated? Do we end up with a domain registration system per country?
    • walrus01 19 minutes ago
      I think given the history and "ownership" of the specific TLD of .com by verisign and verisign's relationship with the US federal government, it then proceeds to ignore any court orders to reinstate the ownership issued by a court in any other country that is not the USA.
    • inigyou 16 minutes ago
      We literally already have one of those. Each country has a .XX TLD, and all other TLDs are for the USA.
  • rblatz 1 hour ago
    Default judgement, absolutely meaningless at this point as to how a court would rule against a plaintiff that actually showed up, respected the court’s authority, and defended itself.
    • walrus01 32 minutes ago
      Why should a Netherlands based company that publishes content on the internet entirely outside of this state's borders and jurisdiction be required to show up or respect its authority? By this logic if I'm sued in Turkey for publishing content on my web server hosted in California insulting Erdogan, I should have to go show up and defend myself in some kangaroo court.
      • cookiengineer 12 minutes ago
        It would be kind of interesting to start a gay/trans/lgbtq+ website with a .berlin TLD, and bait the texas state attorney for a lawsuit.

        Because technically, ownership of a domain of a foreign city in a foreign sovereign country is anticonstitutional in the US since the declaration of independence.

        The court case would be quite fun because you could argue with colonialism, exerting foreign control, and draw parallels to the East India Trading company, UK colonies etc.

        Maybe this is how we can get rid of the modern day colonialist Donuts, LLC and give cities their gTLDs back?

      • fwip 26 minutes ago
        If you want to keep the domain name you got from a TLD that they control, yes.

        Or did you mean, like, morally?

        • walrus01 23 minutes ago
          But does a US State control a TLD, really? Is that even something that's within the legitimate legal power of an individual state? Previous .com seizures have been done at the federal court level. The federal government reserves the authority to regulate all inter-state commerce. The entire history of how the .com TLD is run by Verisign is federal government related.

          Doing this at the state court level is as nonsensical as an individual state deciding it doesn't like a law or regulation that's part of the jurisdiction of the FAA or FCC, and wants to do its own unique weird local thing.

    • throwatdem12311 29 minutes ago
      So if I don’t do business in Texas, have no operations in Texas or otherwise deal with Texas in any way a state court should just be able to order a company to suspend my whole domain?

      I’m Canadian and Texas courts have zero authority over me so they can f*ck off.

      • jzb 18 minutes ago
        But they do have authority over the domain registrar, so you’re vulnerable there no matter where you live.

        I don’t agree with the premise of age verification, but of course a prosecutor would go after the assets they can reach if enforcing local laws. They’ve done this for years when it comes to copyright infringement.

        • walrus01 3 minutes ago
          It's a huge overreach to say that any individual US state has authority over a domain registrar, and even more specifically over .COM as a TLD, given its history with VeriSign and the US federal government.

          There exists a well defined process, precedent and prior case law in US federal court to seize a .COM domain name by a court order issued to VeriSign. Doing this at the state level is entirely new.

    • trhway 59 minutes ago
      That is the strategy - you start with the easy cases - somebody who wouldn’t or couldn’t defend themselves and who is “bad” in public perception.
  • throwaway81523 1 hour ago
    The domain name is motherless.com if that's what you wanted to know. It's a porn site.
  • jmclnx 19 minutes ago
    Well the site does not present Texas in a good light. Their .gov site presents me with this. Looks like they need to worry about their own site instead of worrying about out of state sites.

    >Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead

    > Firefox detected a potential security threat and did not continue to www.texasattorneygeneral.gov. If you visit this site, attackers could try to steal information like your passwords, emails, or credit card details.

  • msftgreed 58 minutes ago
    So a state (or municipality or anyone capable of making laws) has the ability to say, "You don't meet our local laws, take down your URL" now?

    This is going to be a real problem when states start nuking whole parts of the internet from orbit. A state has a law against conversion therapy and starts to remove sites with that? A state has a law against trans people? Or abortion? Or medical misinformation? Suddenly we just start purging sites back and forth?

    Battlegrounds end up as torn up, muddy, desolate places. Turning the domain registry into a battleground is a bad idea. Over the long term, no one wins if we choose to fight there.

    • gamblor956 0 minutes ago
      This is a pretty clear violation of the First Amendment, but the current SCOTUS doesn't care about the Constitution.

      Multiple conservative SCOTUS justices openly admit to taking bribes from parties with cases before them.

    • inigyou 14 minutes ago
      In the US, if you used a US domain or registrar, this is possible. If you are Dutch and registered a .nl domain with a Dutch registrar, this is not possible.
    • ranguna 51 minutes ago
      I thought this was always the case?

      But what people do instead is to disable access for people from that specific state.

    • kobalsky 40 minutes ago
      I mean the US works like this, it isn't suprising a US state also does.

      If someone from the US does something illegal on your site (which is legal in your country), depending on how much they want you will end up in a US prison.

      Before the US decided that betting online was OK, betting sites had travel advisories for their employees not to travel to the US.

    • TurdF3rguson 47 minutes ago
      It seems like it's pretty easy to comply. Pornhub and others don't have any problems complying with TX.
      • abraham 42 minutes ago
        According to this pornhub is blocked in 25 states including Texas.

        https://mashable.com/article/pornhub-blocked-states-2025

        • Zak 32 minutes ago
          You wrote this in the passive voice; it doesn't say who is doing the blocking.

          Pornhub itself is doing the blocking; it uses geolocation and denies services to IP addresses from jurisdictions with age verification laws. The laws are usually not structured so as to require a third party such as an ISP to block noncompliant sites; instead, the governments of the states with those laws can sue the porn sites and their service providers (Verisign in the case of .com domains).

        • TurdF3rguson 4 minutes ago
          Right, because they complied. Which was easy for them to do.
  • BobbyTables2 1 hour ago
    I don’t understand - was this site or company based in Texas?

    Otherwise the general idea seems absurd that an individual state could freeze a domain impacting for the whole Internet…

    (EDIT: I won’t lose any sleep at the loss of such scum but the general principle seems a bit strange.)

    • comrade1234 1 hour ago
      It's not confusing and you should understand what's happening for your own safety. This has been happening for a couple of decades internationally and now with USA states.

      This result means that Texas can take various means to block motherless. But more importantly no motherless employees should travel to Texas without risk of arrest. Same for abc/youtube/facebook employess traveling to India.

      You should be aware of this and monitor it in your industry.

      • TurdF3rguson 53 minutes ago
        I would think it only applies to named employees, right?
      • antonvs 26 minutes ago
        Even people with mothers shouldn't travel to Texas.
        • gnabgib 16 minutes ago
          > Even people with mothers shouldn't travel to Texas.

          You know real, friendly, generous humans live in Texas, right?

    • BLKNSLVR 1 hour ago
      > obtained a court-ordered writ directing Verisign, the company that maintains the “.com” domain registry, to place the domain “motherless.com” on a registry lock, hold, or similar status.

      So they're using the fact that Verisign is a US company and can therefore be leaned on.

      I'm not sure how I feel about this. What do other countries do who don't have Verisign to lean on? US companies really don't like being told what to do by governments of other countries, but when the shoe is on the other foot...

      • 15155 1 hour ago
        > What do other countries do who don't have Verisign to lean on?

        They lean on their ISPs, see Spain and the La Liga controversy.

        • BLKNSLVR 1 hour ago
          But that, more appropriately, only affects internet users in that country (ignoring the cloudflare network blocking that causes various other sites to also be blocked).

          This appears to basically wipe the site from the entire internet, for all countries.

          • 15155 59 minutes ago
            When you create the infrastructure, you make the rules. If a party doesn't like those rules, they are free to create their own replacement infrastructure and obtain global buy-in.

            ccTLDs already exist and their respective countries have sovereignty over those TLDs: the UK can disappear any .uk domain name it wants from the global internet.

            The .com TLD is American, and is therefore subject to American legal proceedings.

            • wizcaps 22 minutes ago
              I think you know how absurd it sounds to say in response “well you can go and create your own internet”
        • markdown 22 minutes ago
          That's the correct way, because it applies only to residents of that jurisdiction. Texas should be able to prevent their local ISP's from showing illegal content, but not control what people see in other parts of the country/state.
    • Cpoll 1 hour ago
      > The Office of the Attorney General will continue to use every available legal mechanism, including writs of attachment against domain names, to enforce Texas law and ensure that no company, regardless of where it is incorporated, can profit from exposing Texas children to harmful content.

      And Kick Online Entertainment S.A. appears to be incorporated in Luxembourg. The "S.A." is a mostly European thing, kind of like a "limited" company.

    • WhyNotHugo 53 minutes ago
      > I won’t lose any sleep at the loss of such scum but the general principle seems a bit strange.

      That's generally key in making a precedent. The first case is someone nobody really cares for, but it's built a precedent where the next case must follow suit.

    • lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1 hour ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verisign

      (Under "Controversies".)

      > In March 2012, the U.S. government declared that it has the right to seize domains ending in .com, .net, .cc, .tv, .name, and .org if the companies administering the domains are based in the U.S. The U.S. government can seize the domains ending in .com, .net, .cc, .tv, and .name by serving a court-order on Verisign, which manages those domains.

      • BobbyTables2 1 hour ago
        Perhaps for violations of _federal_ law…

        However, applying this for violations of _state_ law seems odd.

        Where does it end?

        What if a law enacted by a single US city’s city council is violated? Would US as a country seize the domain?

        • mapontosevenths 24 minutes ago
          I'm gonna get a few people together and all run for city council so we can seize profitable domain names for ourselves.

          "Sorry Meta, but BFE, Nebraska outlawed Farmville and now some guy named Bob owns facebook.com."

      • what 1 hour ago
        Texas isn’t the US government?
        • randbyte 1 hour ago
          When people say “US government” they usually mean the federal government…
          • what 9 minutes ago
            That was my point?
        • TylerE 18 minutes ago
          No more than the government of France is the EU government.
          • monksy 15 minutes ago
            It's more like the government of Hungry or Bulgaria in the EU analogy.
    • jagged-chisel 1 hour ago
      I think it remains to be seen whether Verisign follows through.
      • jerrythegerbil 1 hour ago
        • EmbarrassedHelp 1 hour ago
          So he managed to block the site globally for not forcibly violating the privacy of its users with mandatory age verification.

          The US court system really needs to do something about this, and overturn Free Speech Coalition v. Paxton in favour of Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union.

          • inigyou 12 minutes ago
            Motherless shouldn't have used a domain under Texan jurisdiction if they didn't want this to happen.
          • reactordev 1 hour ago
            The US court system is completely hamstrung by the current administration.
          • applfanboysbgon 1 hour ago
            FWIW, the site isn't blocked globally. They just moved to a new domain.

            I do generally agree that local governments trying to forcefully exert their influence beyond their jurisdiction is deeply problematic. It wouldn't even be possible to host a website on the internet if this becomes normalized, due to being held to thousands of contradicting standards. At most Texas should have the authority to tell Texas ISPs to block traffic.

    • tailscaler2026 54 minutes ago
      > I won’t lose any sleep at the loss of such scum

      Thank you for your virtue signaling. You're now registered as a lifetime GOP member.

    • toomuchtodo 1 hour ago
      It operates in Texas if it is serving Texas users.

      > Kick Online, which openly describes itself as a “moral free” company, ignored the lawsuit and refused to comply with the court’s order. It continued publishing and distributing harmful sexual material that was accessible to minors in Texas.

      This is the same website with a forum with millions of users trading information on how to assault their partner.

      https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2026/03/world/expose-rape-as...

      FAFO.

      • profmonocle 0 minutes ago
        > It operates in Texas if it is serving Texas users.

        What do you mean "serves"? Does that just mean not actively blocking users from Texas? Allowing your web site to be accessible regardless of user location is, and always has been, the default way to run a web site. Your assertion would mean that web site operators are beholden to the laws of all jurisdictions on the planet if they don't actively block those users.

        Think about what a bad precedent that would be. Some countries criminalize promotion of pro-LGBT+ content. What if those countries suddenly demand extradition of people who run pro-LGBT+ blogs because the web sites are available there?

        Also, keep in mind that geolocation isn't actually part of the Internet - it's an overlay that private companies have cobbled together that usually works. But it's not perfect, especially at the subnational level. Many times I've connected to public Wi-Fi and I get an alert that I've signed into something from across the country, because that's where the Wi-Fi provider's IPs are located. Are you sure that every jurisdiction in the world will accept that if gelocation gets it wrong, you're off the hook? Utah has already claimed that companies are responsible for complying with their laws even if the user masks their location with VPN. https://www.privacyguides.org/news/2026/05/11/utah-targets-v...

      • monksy 16 minutes ago
        Today I learned that a foreign government operates in Texas.

        I didn't know that Texas is supporting and promoting the North Korean government: http://naenara.com.kp/main/index/en/first

        I wonder why they aren't being called out for anti-American terrorist groups.

        • toomuchtodo 1 minute ago
          Not a .com domain, so out of reach. Anything within US reach, individuals or entities, is fair game from a US judicial system perspective.
      • pixl97 1 hour ago
        All fun and games till religions get in battles and shut down websites talking about gods and beliefs they don't like.
        • BobbyTables2 1 hour ago
          Indeed.

          Does this mean Texas can shutdown other websites in other states that provide abortion support? I’m sure there are those who would argue such to be harmful to children…(not to mention the fetus)

          • inigyou 11 minutes ago
            Yes, it means exactly that.
          • monksy 18 minutes ago
            Yes. With what they just did.
        • throwawaypath 13 minutes ago
          >religions get in battles and shut down websites talking about gods and beliefs they don't like.

          Leftists and trans activists attempting to shut down Kiwifarms comes to mind.

        • toomuchtodo 1 hour ago
          All speech does not deserve the same protection, certainly not unlimited protection, says SCOTUS.

          Supreme Court allows Texas to enforce law requiring age verification and parental consent on apps - https://www.scotusblog.com/2026/07/supreme-court-allows-texa... - July 6th, 2026

          Supreme Court allows Texas’ law on age-verification for pornography sites - https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/06/court-allows-texas-law-on... - June 27th, 2025

          https://mashable.com/article/all-the-states-and-countries-wi...

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_media_age_verification_...

          • pixl97 54 minutes ago
            Right, that's why speech by white Christians males should be protected, and not any of those Muslims or gay people.

            Now, I say this mockingly, my neighbors (yes I live in Texas) say such things with a steadfast belief. Which is really weird to me because they keep electing adulterers and rapists.

            • fwip 19 minutes ago
              I don't see the disconnect you do - they are voting for white Christian men to protect white Christian men. The rape and adultery was hurting women (or gay guys).
      • Dylan16807 1 hour ago
        > It operates in Texas if it is serving Texas users.

        Then it's violating the laws of a whole lot of places by serving pornography to adults.

        The existence of a web server doesn't feel like enough nexus to seize a domain.

      • EmbarrassedHelp 1 hour ago
        The problem is that Paxton is attempting to do the same thing to every site that doesn't forcibly violate user privacy with mandatory age verification. Its part of Project 2025 and the Heritage Foundations goals, and its incompatible with privacy rights.
      • what 19 minutes ago
        > it operates in Texas if it is serving Texas users

        Nonsense.

        There is no reliable way to not serve your content to people in Texas. If anything, Texas should compel ISPs to not serve it to their Texas customers.

  • tamimio 1 hour ago
    So, what’s the safest domain tld that’s safe from all that craziness out there?
    • inigyou 10 minutes ago
      Your local country, provided that it is not crazy. Then you are only accountable to one country's jurisdiction.
    • shitter 38 minutes ago
      .onion
  • charcircuit 53 minutes ago
    I wonder when browsers will follow Brave's lead and support decentralized domains that can't be censored due to laws from half way across the world.
  • EmbarrassedHelp 1 hour ago
    There's no such thing as "reasonable age verification measures". Its lie spread by fascists like Ken Pax­ton, the Heritage Foundation, and ton of other evil people.
  • ofewfewhw 1 hour ago
    Definitely bad overall and opposed to the principle by which this is being done, but I am at least glad it happened to motherless. The last I saw of that site it had terrible moderation and hosted quite a bit of dubious material.
    • paxys 1 hour ago
      So it's bad but you're okay with it because it's being done to someone you don't like..

      This is exactly how we lose all our rights.

    • ActorNightly 1 hour ago
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  • nadermx 27 minutes ago
    I guess by default all .com's have US jurisdiction? Because even if it's a default judgment, and the registrar is based out of the US, which seems to the case here, any court order from the US is able to take a domain down.

    Found the case, https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca9/07...

    The Ninth Circuit held that the U.S. court had jurisdiction to proceed because VeriSign—the registry for all .com domains—was located in the United States.

    • inigyou 9 minutes ago
      Every TLD that is not a ccTLD is effectively a US ccTLD. This has always been the case, and perhaps the US has tricked us into becoming complacent. If the world was fair they would all be underneath .us.