Nikita Bier Steps Down as Head of Product at X

(twitter.com)

31 points | by DearAll 1 hour ago

14 comments

  • saagarjha 56 minutes ago
    I guess he decided he had ruined the platform enough. Before he joined X had already implemented the login wall stuff that only let you view a single post, by the time he left it would show a tapping animation trying to beg you to install the app, open the App Store immediately if you interacted with anything, and put up a bunch of popovers. I hope that his changes increased engagement in the way he had hoped.
  • jjcm 5 minutes ago
    There's a lot of negative about twitter here, especially related to timeline being shit.

    I'd like to give a different perspective - it's an algorithmic feed like anything else, it surfaces what you engage with. There are good niches on it. My feed is a mix of designers and AI engineers - not leaders, but people on the ground making things.

    There's definitely been weird things politically with it, but content wise it really isn't as bad as people demonize it to be.

  • afavour 1 hour ago
    https://xcancel.com/nikitabier/status/2085105586966827343#m

    The most consequential change in recent years has been to pay users for posting controversial content. For me that killed the service. Anything else is secondary.

    • InterviewFrog 18 minutes ago
      it has always been this way across every platform.

      most people don't pay attention to anything that isn't controversial or extreme. Thats just how our brains work and thats the reason why MrBeast's advice on making it on youtube is the way it is.

      • mplewis 9 minutes ago
        the fact that this recently changed on twitter means it has not, in fact, "always been this way across every platform"
    • wrqvrwvq 45 minutes ago
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  • orsorna 46 minutes ago
    Man this guy was obnoxious. Even his farewell post is dripping in annoying quips.
  • Zealotux 57 minutes ago
    What an absolute miserable experience Twitter is now, even more than before, I can feel my cortisol spiking every time I open that website.
    • outside1234 2 minutes ago
      Stop using it! It is like an oxy addiction and we all just need to stop - it isn't good for us.
    • ZiiS 53 minutes ago
      Maybe stop?
    • axod 26 minutes ago
      Isn’t the whole point that they don’t want you to use the website - they want you to install the app. Why would they make the website an enjoyable experience?
    • 762236 49 minutes ago
      It's wild to me how many replies are like this. I like X. HN, on the other hand is miserable, with censorship through down votes of unorthodox thinkers (PG would be completely down voted if he were to post here anonymously).
      • everfrustrated 14 minutes ago
        I find I get a lot more hacker news from X now than HN.

        AI, database tech, etc I find I read about it on X much earlier and the comments are a lot less negative.

        X is what you make it. It will feed you with more of what you read and interact with.

      • dgellow 41 minutes ago
        Ironically for you, the HN guidelines recommend to not complain about the voting system:

        > Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.

        https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

      • DoesntMatter22 39 minutes ago
        Agree totally. X is pretty open. I like reading the stories her more but it's an extreme group think of only one position
  • mosura 1 hour ago
    Maybe it is me, but for a random Wednesday in August there have been a strange amount of big moves today. Normally you expect quiet or nonsense.
    • neko_ranger 56 minutes ago
      maybe the tech trade deadline is this week (baseball's was on monday)
  • unsupp0rted 57 minutes ago
    > We've climbed 70 spots in the App Store since this time last year.

    Shows how valuable the Play Store is to them

  • interleave 41 minutes ago
    imho Nikita did a good job and I wish he stayed on.

    Twitter is 100% better now than a year ago. For one, I haven't gotten a single bullshit click-farm fake-ass sock-puppet follower in months. Secondly, I see very few low-effort reply guys lately, human or otherwise.

    • unsupp0rted 2 minutes ago
      I'm a supporter of X but even I admit I see non-stop AI bot comments
    • andrewingram 38 minutes ago
      Are you paying? I see an endless stream of AI or bot-like posts in the replies of basically every tweet I see with any traction, but i'm not a paying user so I may have the bad version of the platform.
      • stelonix 16 minutes ago
        Same. I just skip verified posts because the ones at the top are LLM replies. Unless I'm missing something, that should be easy to detect. Instead I've got ghost banned for a week+ now, no reason given and no way to appeal. X now is the place if you want to check for yourself the dead internet theory.
      • everfrustrated 11 minutes ago
        There's has been a noticeable improvement in bots for me since the new Android app rolled out a few weeks back.

        Not exactly sure how that changed anything but I see a lot less bot slop now.

  • rvz 31 minutes ago
    In 2022, Twitter / X was supposed to have completely shut down according to many doomsters at the time. It is clear that many in [0], [1] and [2] also would like to ask the same question why Twitter / X still hasn't shut down.

    Turns out almost 4 years later, we are going to waiting even longer for the collapse.

    [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33984823

    [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34214903

    [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34617964

    • outside1234 0 minutes ago
      It has collapsed. It is just bots and racism that have collapsed it, not a technical failure.

      It has also collapsed on a business front. There are rumors that it has 1/10th the revenue that it did before.

    • kristianc 20 minutes ago
      He had the good fortune to cut just as AI was beginning to mean you needed fewer software engineers for the same level of output. And yes, software companies across the industry had accumulated in many instances people whose business was not, and was sometimes orthogonal to, building software.
      • unsupp0rted 1 minute ago
        [delayed]
      • everfrustrated 9 minutes ago
        Elon was well on top of what AI was capable of. That sounds less luck and more well played.
  • bigyabai 1 hour ago
    > X is, and will remain, the most important communication technology in history.

    A little cocky.

    • gota 57 minutes ago
      Twitter is indeed the greatest communication techonlogy if you do not count the telegraph, the telephone, the television, radio, almost every single aspect of the internet, etc.

      It beats shouting from your window in reach and carrier pigeons in needing less birdfeed, though.

      • unsupp0rted 55 minutes ago
        > the telegraph, the telephone, the television

        None of those let a random person Hawk Tuah their way to reaching millions. Seriously: x disintermediates and offers distribution in a way no other communication tech does.

        Granted you can always post a blog or whatever, but X's ambition to be the "town square" is a valid one and it does achieve it in notable ways, even if there's still 100 years worth of improvement needed.

        • dgellow 36 minutes ago
          The town square concept has never made sense. The idea that you have a place where everybody goes and scream at each others insults non stop is completely insane in the real world
          • unsupp0rted 7 minutes ago
            Yes that would be insane, but that's not an accurate depiction of my x feed at all
        • mindslight 40 minutes ago
          > None of those let a random person Hawk Tuah their way to reaching millions

          Onlyfans was included under "almost every single aspect of the internet".

        • bigyabai 50 minutes ago
          > None of those let a random person Hawk Tuah their way to reaching millions.

          I take it you didn't watch much daytime television? Or YouTube?

          X is not designed or moderated in a reputable, accountable or unbiased fashion - and neither was Twitter. X's ambition to be a "town square" is a solipsistic delusion that even Dorsey managed to avoid (despite all the mistakes he did make).

          100 years worth of improvement isn't enough, X's centralized design is inherently abusive and many communities have already moved on. As Terry Davis would have put it, X glows.

          • unsupp0rted 9 minutes ago
            Daytime television was intermediated by tv producers.

            Youtube's algorithm prevents big channels (or even little channels) from saying scary words like "suicide" so they play games like saying "somebody un-alived" themselves.

            I'm surprised HN hates X so much as a cess-pool of wrong-think: that's what you get when you let people say anything to anybody. The great challenge that X has taken on is trying to surface the useful stuff for people. Maybe they're not that good at it, but they're improving.... which is well in line with the hacker ethos.

            Personally, my x feed is a pretty good mix of things I want to see and things I didn't know I want to see. Maybe 10~20% of it isn't relevant at all.

        • blokey 48 minutes ago
          I guess.

          If the town itself is an aids-ridden, nazi infested bunch of child-porn-creating yobs.

          They can keep that town and its square. I'd nuke it from orbit, only way to be sure.

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